China Murders Anti-Japanese Protestors

In A News Report On The Fuxin Mine Disaster, I wondered why does the Chinese-interested blogosphere takes such pleasure in going after the official Chinese media but ignore the lies that appear on the so-called 'dissident' websites?  This is a subject that no one wants to deal with.  This is the "the enemy of my enemy is my friend and I would not want to criticize them, so I'll pretend that I don't know enough" syndrome.

So I'm going to renew my challenge with yet another report from Peacehall (aka Boxun).  I have included the original Chinese portion in case they decided to delete the item.

On April 23, the leaders from various civil anti-Japanese organizations such as Tang Mingbo, Tang Mingjun, Yang Yi, He Li and Li Pingxiang from Shenzen, Luo Tianlie, Zhong Biao and Zhou Guodong from Guangzhou, Dan Tongjun and Zhao Fanan from Beijing, Li Jianguo and Sun Qiang from Shenyang, and Wu Daiying from Chengdu met at the home of Tang Mingbo at Longhui Garden in the Xili district of Shenzen for the purpose of organizing anti-Japanese activities and other issues.

On April 24, the Shenzhen area members asked for an internal meeting.  Because too many people were involved, they met at a factory in the Xi Li district.

On the morning of April 25, they met as scheduled.  By noon, most of the people had left and seventeen people stayed behind to clean up and get ready to leave.  At that time, the plainclothes policemen entered.

According to eyewitnesses, these plainclothes policemen came in four cars with eleven personnel.  The eyewitnesses heard gunshots from the factory.  Afterwards, a large truck came and 17 stretchers came out with bodies covered in white sheets.  The scene was then cleaned up and the cars left.  Afterwards, the news came out that anti-Japanese activities were suppressed in Shenzhen, Shanghai, Beijing, Chengdu, Guangzhou and Shenyang.  But the news of the bloodshed was strictly shut down.

At this point, the three major civil anti-Japanese forces have been totally eliminated.  Their core members have either been arrested or killed.  The other surviving anti-Japanese organizations are small-scale.  All the well-organized ones have been brutally suppressed, including executions.  All other followers are threatened or enticed to cease and desist.  The anti-Japanese organizations have been dissolved, and all other civil and Internet anti-Japanese movements are being destroyed and annihilated.

The above news have appeared been appearing continuously on the Internet.  We have summarized the information here on behalf of the deceased.

(Boxum editor: Boxun is unable to verify this information.  But since the information is so detailed, it must have a certain amount of credibility.  We hope that netizens can provide more details).

4月23日中国民间反日联合同盟的各地领导人,深圳的唐明波,唐明军,杨毅,何立,李凭祥,广州的罗天烈,钟彪,周国栋,北京的单同军,赵法南,沈阳的李建国,孙强,成都的武代英,在深圳西丽的龙辉花园唐明波的家中集会,考虑反日的活动及其他问题,4月24日,深圳地区的会员要求进行内部会议,由于人数过多,为避免警方的注意决定在4月25日在西丽留仙洞一工业区厂房内集会,4月25日上午集会如期进行,中午时大部分人员散去,在清理现场后准备离开时,仍滞留在场内的同盟成员17人被赶来的便衣拦截,据后来的目击者称,便衣共四辆车,约11人,所处厂房后传来间断的枪声,在短时封闭后,随后赶来一大型货车,现场曾抬出17个铺着白布的担架,随后现场被清理,车辆离开,几日后,深圳,上海,北京,成都,广州,沈阳等地陆续传来官方镇压的消息,但是流血消息严格封闭,至此,中国民间反日的三大主力被全部消灭,骨干不是被捕就是被杀,其他的反日残余成员尚未组织起来,只是小规模联合.方对具有组织能力的人员残酷镇压,不惜处死,但是对于跟从者采取恐吓,威胁利诱等手段,瓦解反日团体.其它民间及网上反日组织也陆续被瓦解及消灭,详见国内有关网站报道.

 以上报道曾为网上间断性的陆续报道出现,现总结汇总,告慰死者。

(博讯编者按:该消息博讯无法核实,但根据成文的细节,具有一定可信度,希望网友提供更多相关消息)

What kind of rubbish is this?  If detailed information is the sole criterion for veracity, I can make up any sh*t to a sufficient level of detail that I can re-write the history of the world from the creation of mankind to the end of the world.  And so can you.  But that would not make it true.

The problem with a website like Peacehall is that it is a mix of apparent truths and total lies.  Peacehall publishes many interesting posts from Chinese dissidents as well as hosts the works of the members of the Chinese Independent PEN.  As such, this is one of my major resources.  At the same time, I also had to learn to avoid the blatant fabrications (such as the million plus Chinese Communist Party members who have heeded the Nine Criticisms from the F*L*G master Li Hong*zi to resign from their party).  

In this particular case, it is about the execution of 17 anti-Japanese organizers by Chinese security agents in Shenzhen.  Perhaps the executions actually occurred.  Who am I to tell you one way or the other, given that I am banging these words out on a keyboard in my Hong Kong home?  But I should think that this report is inadequate, especially given their historical performance on similar matters.  I think that Peacehall ought to be held to a higher standard, for its own sake.

I will also re-ask the question from the previous post:  Do you think any country should allow such lies to be promulgated freely in what appears to be traditional news media?  While it is common to say that the eyes of masses are bright as snow and will see through these kinds of lies, is it worth taking risk that some citizens might buy into it?  Do you think it is right for some citizens to start believing that anti-Japanese patriotic citizens are being slaughtered by their government?  If you believe that the reporting is false, then will you accept that the government is right to ban access to such websites?

It is usual to argue that China bans Boxun/Peacehall as well as many other fair and accurate websites (such as BBC News).  However, China does not approach the argument from this direction.  The opening question is, "Do you agree that some websites (such as Boxun/Peacehall) should be banned for promulgating hurtful lies?"  If you say no, they will say that you support lies.  If you say yes, then the principle is accepted that some websites should be banned and then the rest is just haggling over the details.